00:10:18: So we already raised the point regarding the importance of water polo in a country like Hungary. Are there any special persons, special players, coaches, whatever in the past where you say, okay, these are not saying idols, but people I. I would like to play with or like to play like they play in the past during your early days as a young athlete. Coaches or players who. I want players. Maybe we start with players. Speaker A

00:10:54: Yeah. Coaches. You are not already a coach. Yeah. So maybe then it's better to start with the players. Speaker A

00:11:00: Yeah. Okay. I cannot say that I had this kind of image in my head that, you know, I want to play with this player or that player in my career. I had of course, many idols who I. Who I admired and I love to watch them play. Speaker B

00:11:26: But to be honest, it was never in my mind that, you know, I want to be one day together with them at the. At the pool. To be honest, it's. It's an interesting question, what you asked. I. I never really thought about this before, but yeah, this is the answer. Speaker B

00:11:48: I. I never really imagined to. To as I said to. I want to play with this or that player for sure in my career. Speaker B

00:11:58: But right Now I am 30 years old and I can say that most of the players who were my idols back then, I had the opportunity and I was lucky enough to play with them, most of them. So it happened even though I was not thinking about it. Okay. Yeah. So even play with them or maybe also against them. Speaker A

00:12:30: That's the other chance. Speaker A

00:12:35: So you mentioned you're coming or start your sports career. Coming from the swimming part is really something which is the case for most of the successful water pole players somewhere around the world. Do you also think that it's really a benefit where you can benefit also today from the education and from the style of swimming, effective swimming style also in the later days of your career. So everybody told me that it's so important to learn it once correctly then you have the benefit your whole career, more or less. Yes, exactly. Speaker B

00:13:23: That's 100 right? I have, I, I still feel, and probably I will feel this, this benefit as long as I'm an active player and I will play. That's absolutely right what you're saying. I was lucky enough that as I said in previous, even though I started officially to play water polo. They put. Speaker B

00:13:51: They were paying attention with the players that, you know, the swimming part was, was, was really important and we had at least one or two times a week just swimming sessions to, to master the, the, the swimming part. Just the swimming part because they knew back then were saying this is the most important part because yes, most of the time you, you are swimming and if your technique is, is not right, then you are losing and wasting a lot more energy than, than you have to and you are taking that energy away from, from shooting and from the part when you get the ball in your hand. So yes, I was lucky enough that I had really good basics and I still feel now the benefits. So it's absolutely, it's 100% agreed then with all the other guys and here in the podcast that it goes in the same direction each way each time. Sorry, just to this topic. Speaker B

00:15:10: I don't know if anybody had mentioned it or if you had a Hungarian player in, in the podcast before, but I knew, I know a story about Benedict Ibor that before the Olympics in Beijing he, he was not satisfied with his swimming technique. And I don't know exactly how old was he before the Olympics in 2008, but it's a well known thing between the, between the Hungarian players that he took just by himself swimming lessons at that age. I think, I think he was over 30 at that time or maybe close to 30, but something like this, and it's an amazing thing so you can say that you know, the basics are really important and if you don't have it, you are in trouble. But Benedict Tibor, in many other cases, he's a really good example that most of the time it's just about dedicating yourself and trying to bring out the best from you. Doesn't matter the age. Speaker B

00:16:34: So I think I just wanted to share this, this little detail because he's an example. But in another way, yeah, it's to. Be honest, a Good example that you're also let's say open minded and yeah. Able to rethink at least also in the age of end of 20, early 30s, whatever to, to make things different. So just to have really the chance to close maybe the gap you might have at this time based on the things you mentioned that you really lose the energy or 1, 2, 3% of your 100% then for shooting or whatever. Speaker A

00:17:23: So counter attack or what when we think not really in the club environment. But you already mentioned that you also played on an international basis also World Championship, all these international things. Are there any tournaments you have special memories on? So under 20, what kind of special memories you have really on the most important international tournaments from your point of view? Speaker B

00:18:00: I could mention many of them, but if I have to highlight maybe just one, I will take the chance to, to highlight the 1. It happened in 2012 under 18 world championships, I think in Perth. That was in my career the first time that in the, in the youth national team in my, in my young age, that was the first time we took a medal and I was part of the Hungarian team that we took medal from that or from the, from the events where I participated. That was the first success in my, in my international career. Say like this. Speaker B

00:18:58: It was a silver medal and it was a really emotional part of my, of my career. I really liked. I really enjoyed every, every moment of it. It was really special to travel to the other side of the, of the world and, and we played really good. We had an amazing team from that team. Speaker B

00:19:27: Many of the players, at least two. Yes, for sure or maybe more. But Janshik Silard and Moner Christian are right now playing in the, in the adult national team of Hungary. So yes, maybe that this is the one I, I wanted to highlight because of. I share with you. Speaker A

00:19:54: Okay. Yeah. So. And maybe then when we are talking about highlights, it's also an international highlight. Maybe. Speaker A

00:20:02: So are there any club success stories from your point of view you can imagine? Yes, yes, of course. I think everybody else in my position would mention and would highlight the fact that, that they won the Champions League title. I had this, this luck in my life, but it's of course it's not luck. It was a lot of dedicated hard work and focus and sacrifice that I could, that I can say right now that I had the chance to win the Champions League title with Ferencvaros in 2019. Speaker B

00:20:57: So that's the. Speaker B

00:21:01: I would say the highest ranking medal in my, in my career, in my club career. What I admire the most and I'm the most proud of. Speaker B

00:21:17: And also it includes the fact that, that we won the final against Olympiacos with penalties. I was the one. Speaker B

00:21:29: I was one of the, of the penalty shooters from our side and I was successful and I scored. So yes, it was. It's a really of course in another way, but it's also another really emotional memory and it, and it's also more successful because we got the gold medal, not the silver. So yeah, that's, that's the. I don't know, the. Speaker B

00:22:00: One of the highest points in my, in my club career for sure. Yeah. So which were the final eight? 2019 in Hanover. Right? Speaker B

00:22:09: Exactly. Yes. Okay. Yeah. So maybe then at least I was also on, on the pool, but really not knowing that we are talking about so many years later in the podcast. Speaker A

00:22:20: So. Yes. Yes. Nobody. Yeah. Speaker A

00:22:23: A small world. Speaker A

00:22:27: Regarding also I have the, the, the question or the, the conversation about this topic also with the other guys coming from Hungary regarding the some kind of pressure for Hungarian players to wear the Hungarian cup or the cap. Is it also a pressure for you or is it also a privilege for you? Because from outside somebody from Germany or other countries would say okay, maybe this is some kind of pressure for the player wearing these Hungarian national team caps. But other Hungarian players told me already that it's not really only pressure because it's also privileged to wear the cap. So it's. Speaker A

00:23:21: The pressure is normal. So when you play a tournament or national team tournament or whatever, so the pressure is normal as for any other nation also. But it's also on the other hand a privilege to wear the cap of Hungary. That yes, I can agree 100 with with both sides the, the pressure and the privilege also of course it's a pressure because Hungary is the most successful water pollen nation, I think. Speaker B

00:23:56: So if you have the chance to, to represent your country in this case Hungary in our World Championships, in the Olympics, in European Championships or anywhere else, it doesn't matter. I think the age, but the fact that you are wearing the national flag on your cap and on your swimsuit, it is always a pressure because I think not just the player expects. Every player who has the chance to, to be there expects from, from, from himself that you know, they need to bring the, the, the, the best possible so the highest the gold medal at home, but also the whole nation expects the same from them. So that's why it's the pressure side. The privilege is privilege, of course, because I don't think I need to go into the details why it's privilege just by itself to be in the Hungarian national team as a water polo player. Speaker B

00:25:29: But also we can say that it's a small nation what we have in Hungary. And also even though we are the most successful nation and we have relatively big amount of kids and players who want to be water polo players. I don't know. Compared to any other nations the population is bigger. So that's why they have mathematically a bigger number of the human beings they can choose from. Speaker B

00:26:09: And within this smaller amount of people, it's a privilege that you were chosen into the. Into the national team. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So it's other countries maybe have some more people or kids. Speaker A

00:26:26: Yeah. Which is as you mentioned available per se. But it's not. Not really then the best recipe or given thing that all the people or all the more people, more kids are really than yeah. Class on the. Speaker A

00:26:47: On the. On the way to be successful for. For. For water polar nation. So we have so many kids in Germany. Speaker A

00:26:54: So maybe at the moment Germany is not so successful to be honest. But we have to rebuild then the base and hopefully then somewhere in the future we have also a little bit more success than again of course like in the past. Are there any special advice or experience from your coaches in the past during all the years playing in the clubs, internationally or for the national team? Any specific advice where you say okay, this is an advice which was very important for you personally for your progress and process or your development either as a player or as a human. So are there any special things where you say okay, this was really important for me, for my career. Speaker A

00:27:54: So many advices in the past. Yes, exactly. That was running through my mind because I got a lot of advices and good things and bad things also. But from. From. Speaker B

00:28:08: Even from the bad things I could learn of course in that moment when I was experience experiencing it or having trouble with was not so good. But after time went by I could say right now that even the bad things could had the good effects on me. What shaped me as I am right now. So I am not able. I cannot highlight one thing from a coach or from one coach in my career. Speaker B

00:28:55: I would say I would add up all the things. As I said the good things are the bad things. And yeah, that's how it happened that I am here right now and I'm still playing and I achieved the thing what I achieved and had the chances to play in the teams where I played and I'm still doing it. I still have ambitions. So yes, I'm really grateful for all the coaches in my life who shaved me and taught me things. Speaker A

00:29:36: But I think this is really also some good advice then for young athletes really, to get most of your negative experiences, maybe because from loss of the game or loss of a, I don't know, gold medal match, silver medal match, you, you. It's hard at the moment to lose the game, but also from these kind of negative things, you. You learn the most. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Speaker B

00:30:06: Yes. Understand it correctly. Maybe that's the, that's the good advice that, you know, the hard things, the, the losses. Yeah, the swimming sessions. The swimming sessions are really popular. Speaker B

00:30:19: Yeah, exactly. All over the world you have the. Pain at the moment when these things are happening, but it will go away. Speaker B

00:30:35: And try to live every time in the moment and try to focus on the good things and take from yourself in the future the good things and which are good for you in those situations. And I know, I know because I have been there and I still experience this, that sometimes it's really hard to find the good things or just one good thing in the best situations, in the bad moments. But there are always at least one thing which is good and which you can rely on and try to put the focus on. And yeah, maybe that's the most important thing, to find these things. Yeah, yeah. Speaker A

00:31:22: So basically we have really able to find 1, 2, 3 advices then for all the listeners here. So it's every time the same. So when somebody's talking or thinking about this during the conversation, we are finding one or two things each time. Yes. So when you're talking about your, let's say, club career or also your journeys to other countries, you mentioned that you're really starting playing in Hungary, then get the first contract in Hungary, then for a short period of time going to Germany, playing in Germany or in Berlin, then Italy. Speaker B

00:32:14: I. Speaker A

00:32:26: Didn'T know. Speaker B

00:32:29: Yet. I'm through.